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#1 ok i think that a person in the right mental state should be able to commit physician-assisted suicide. becaus what is the point in delying the person pain and suffering if the knnow that they have an incurable sickness. The chances that a mircale will happen are slim to none. if you are a docter i think that you get more out of your job if you see one of your patients get well then people also hear about it and you get new patients, and you would not have to listen to the insuranc company. If the family really care they wont give up on chances untill the really know what will happen. but the patient should only be able to commit susicide if he or she has the familys agreement. organs are also saved if the patient is well at the time of death as you let him/her sit there and die the organs also get older and less cabable to do there job for the body. money is a big part of todays world and if you spend it one some one that has a small chance of surival then it is al most wasted money. so i think that is up to the family but mainly up to the person that is living or dying.
I think that every person has the right to choose for their choice of life. I think it is up to a doctor whether or not he wants to help, and ultimately up to the patient to choose their life. A lot of people have yet to understand that we are living in a different society than when these subjects first started comming up. The world and healthcare is changing. I do not think it is anyone else's opinion for one person to choose to live or not. I think if a patient chooses this as their solution and a doctor is a supporter in all physician assisted suicides that is shouldn't be an issue. Too many people concern their beliefs and morals with other people and our society. Even if I didn't agree with physician assisted suicides, I wouldn't outlaw them.
Nicole, I absolutely agree with you 100%
Whether it is a choice I would make or not, it is not my right to outlaw others from doing assisted suicide. It always amazes me how compassionate we are when it comes to animals in pain and suffering. Our immediate response is to put them out of their misery by euthanasia, yet our terminally ill patients we will let suffer and die a slow and painful death without given them the choice to die a quick, painless, and dignified death.
I believe also that it is a person's right to choose whether or not assisted suicide is want they ultimately want. Although this may seem unethical to many groups and/or religions of many people, America's reputation is to be known to make your own choices. If a person is suffering severe pain, one might think that a slow death enduring the pain would be a more vulgar death rather than ending it in a short and quick sequence. I believe that the title of "assisted suicide" may bring up some controversy in today's society of the "murder" definition, but it comes down to the choice of the person experiening the pain. Overrall, I think that assisted suicide is a right thing to do if the person and family choose so. Then again, wouldn't many people in that pain-pressuring time period just want the assisted suicide to end it? Wouldn't this seem not right or ballistic to relatives or family?
In response to david's reaction to the reading, are you trying to state that the idea of assisted suicde is not right? The last part of your response deals with money being a big part in today's society, but you never have been and never will be able to put a price on a person's life. An assisted suicide in a situation where there is a slim chance of survival isn't a waste of money if the family and/or person is willing to take the consequence of the procedure.
in response to mrs. burr, i completely agree with what you are saying about the animal suffering situation. So many people are quick to make the decision to put an animal out of its misery, but slow to go with an assisted suicide to a suffering human. i believe that an animal's life is not equal to that of a human's relating to an ethical and religous belief that i have. Why let this human in excrutiating pain suffer a long death when it can be taken care of quickly and as mrs burr said, in a dignified manner.
I agree with what everyone has been saying so far. I strongly believe that you should have a choice whether you choose to die or continue to suffer and no one should be able to tell you otherwise. Ya but the doctor say he take a life, well do what you know is best for the person and their decision.
gah! again with the government getting into things it shouldnt
in my opinion if someone truly wants to die, why make them suffer? I think if the doctor is willing to help them out then by all means help end the suffering! I dont think it breaks the oath that they take. They wouldnt be harming the patient if they were putting them out of their misery.
In my opinion the right to end your misery should be allowed
Wow! When you compare it to animals it makes me even more mad!!! I cant believe they wont let people leave a life of misery but they put animals to sleep left and right! Sheeesh... our country is just...wow
Also i totally agree that the person should MOST DEFINATELY be in the right state of mind. That should be well assured of before the person is allowed to pull the plug. Also if they arent maybe the family should have a say. I have to think about it a little more though. This issue seems to based alot on morals, so its difficult for people
I believe that every individual should have the right to choose if they want to live or die as long as they are in the right mental state. If they have an incurable disease and it is just causing them an enormous amount of pain then why suffer when you can end the pain right away? I think that physician-assisted suicide is fine as long as the patient knows what they are actually saying and knows that they are going to die. The doctor should have the right to not kill the patient as long as there might be a chance of that patient to live. If there is no doubt that the patient is going to die and they say that they would like the doctor to assist them in their death i think by all means that the doctor should help the patient out.
I agree with Jessica when she says that the person must be in the right mental state of mind. If the person is not mentally stable and they say they want to die well they might not really want to die. Only people that know they want to die and have and incurable disease should be able to have physician-assisted suicide.
In response to Colin I think that many people in that situation would want to have physician-assisted suicide and as long as the person and the family agree on it then shouldn't they have the right to have an assisted death?
I believe that everyone has the choice on what to do with his or her own life. I think that if the patient wants to commit physician-assisted suicide, then that is up to them and no one else, especially if the patient is incurably-ill. I know that there are many people/groups/religions that believe it is morally wrong, but it isn't there place to say it is for someone else. If they ever get in that position, then they can go about it however they choose. Physician-assisted suicide may violate a doctors' Hippocratic oath, but if the patient is suffering from this illness, then the doctor still isn't doing what he or she is supposed to. The patient should be put out of the pain. I also think if a person is in a vegetative state, physician-assisted suicide is acceptable because to me, sitting lifeless in a hospital is no way to live.
I also agree with Jessica and Alec. I think that the person should be mentally-stable in order to make such a decision as that.
Once again I am proud of all of your entries so far. This is a very touchy topic and I hope that everyone feels comfortable expressing their true feelings.
no colin i tryed to say that if a person has a slim to none chance of living then is there really a point in delaying the inevitable or to continue there suffering.
and that it is right only if it is a sensible thing to do.
and yes i totaly agree with you you cant put a price on a persons life.
I believe someone should be able to have a physician assisted suicide under certain terms: One being that (along with everyone elses opinion) the patient definitely needs to be in the right state of mind because they're making a literal life or death decision. Also if someone is in a vegetable-state, they should definitely be able to have the physician assisted suicide because a life where you can't function at all wouldn't be worth living. The doctor should have a say too because he knows the statistics of survival rates and such so his opinion on the assisted suicide should matter a lot. I'm also sure some doctors would have a problem taking the life of a human being whether or not they were in a good state of health.
As to what Colin said, I 100% agree that a human's life and an animals life are not equal due to my personal beliefs. People should definitely have the choice about their own life regardless of religious or ethical matter.
I agree with Mrs. Burr, it's a very touchy topic and I'm proud of all of you expressing your true emotion. (:
I AM PRO-CHOICE. I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT IF YOU HAVE NO CHANCE OF LIVING AND ARE ONLY DELAYING THE INEVITABLE THEN YOU SHOULD CHOOSE TO EITHER BRAVE IT TILL THE END OR OFF YOURSELF EARLY. THE THING IS, SUICIDE IS ILLEGAL. THAT'S DUMB SINCE THEY CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING TO DEAD PEOPLE, BUT ASSISTED SUICIDE IS LIKE ASSISTED CRIME IN THE EYES OF THE LAW. PLUS, ASSISTED SUICIDE IS SOMETIMES JUST AS IT SOUNDS. THERE ARE SOME OLD PEOPLE OUT THERE FAKING PAIN JUST SO THEY CAN GET A DOCTOR TO ASSIST THEM IN SUICIDE. AND WHEN THE AUTOPSY COMES BACK AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG, THE DOCTOR TAKES THE WRAP FOR IT. I LIKE THE IDEA AND ALL, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF WAYS PEOPLE CAN ABUSE IT.
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUTTING ANIMALS TO SLEEP AND ASSISTED SUICIDE. FIRST OF ALL, THE ANIMAL OR HIS/HER PARENTS DON'T RELLY HAVE A SAY IN IT. PLUS, DOGS WOULD NEVER WANT TO KILL THEMSELVES. THEIR PRIMARY INSTINCT IS TO STAY ALIVE. PUTTING THEM TO SLEEP IS ENTIRELY THE VET'S DECISION, UNLIKE IN ASSISTED SUICIDE. AGAIN, I'M PRO-CHOICE, BUT THERE ARE KEY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ANIMALS AND HUMANS.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF ASSISTED SUICIDE, BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER IF IT WOULD CAUSE MORE HARM THEN GOOD. IF THE GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY DID DECLARE IT LEGAL TO PERFORM ASSISTED SUICIDE, WOULD ALL DOCTORS USE IT JUSTLY? THERE COULD BE SOME DOCTORS OUT THERE THAT WOULD USE THIS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE. USE THE PATIENCE'S MOMENT OF WEAKNESS AS AN EXCUSE TO KILL HIM/HER. AND THE GOVERNMENT COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LEGAL AND THERE WOULD BE NO WAY OF KNOWING IF THE DOCTOR IS TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT.
So you have a deadly disease that everyone knows your going to die from. There is no cure and the disease eats your flesh slowly. The you cant move because the pain is unbearable. Your anxious to scratch your injuries bcause they itch but if you do you'll be making the wounds deeper and spreading the disease.. They ask you if you're okay. you can see the anger in your eyes and simply look up and down, as if you're nodding, because actually doing so would put you in agony. You have a few months to live. Die in agony when the time is over or die moer comfortably with many doses of morphine?
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i really do believe that it is the persons choice to choose wether they want to die from an incurable disease.
A lot of you guys do too, but face away from the fact that people tendto abuse laws all the time. Will doctors use this to get rid of a burden, will insurance companies encourage it so they dont have to pay the medical bills?
I have a solution, why not have people sign a form with a questionnaire that asks very specific question about scenarios in which the patient may be in agony and not have a large probability for survival.
People who believe it is morally wrong dont have to fill it out. This will get rid of any uncertainties. Also there should be strenuous training for a doctor conducting the procedure, he should be able to rightfully aknowledge if the patient truly want to die, or if the patient wants to give it a chance.
This is free cnountry and we should have the freedom to choose how we die. Just how have wills when we die.
i agree with corey. i am happy that you guys are letting out your feelings on this touchy subject. I also agree with the fact that animals are like humans when it come to this situation becasue animals can't talk, though they're primary goal is survival, but they don't knw that they're suffering is going to last forever. they dont have that type of intelligence to look into the future. We do and we should definitly be using our superior brainpower to make decisions about the fuure. And i think we are very capable of doing that becasue we do that everyday. People have life insurace, people save up money for college, people predicts the wether so others can plan ahead, and people talk with friends and family about tragic scenarios such as a terrorists attacks, epidemics, and more personal things. SO i think we can decide how we want to die if a disease were to nake us want to die. And like David pointed out first, the person should have the mental capacity to decide. We cannot let kids fill out a questionnaire on how they want to die, they arne't mature enough. So everybody has great points good job guys.
I believe whole heartedly that no one person should take their life regardless if it is physician-assisted or self-assisted. It was given to them by God and is precious. Even if one does have a seemingly incurable illness, they should not be able to commit suicide. As of today, in america, medical advancements are inevitable. I feel that the sad part is not some much the person dying but the fact that they want to kill themselves. They have lost all hope. I even dare to say when one loses hope they die faster. If one truly wants to take their life, they will. They don't need someone to do it for them.
Yes one will take ther own life if they want, but all ways are painful and lonely. Assisted suicide could be and has been peaceful and set in an environment that is caring and loving. Most importantly Brett M. you are very right in your statement that life is precious, their is no better gift. But to watch a loved one die a inevitable death in pain and loss of dignity is devastating to the person and their family. Oh, and Corey glad you agree with me!! However, for a better grade I expect a better response :)
I believe that assisted suicide is ok when a person is of sound mind, and is suffering from something fatal with no chance of survival. It's true that it goes against many religious morals, etc., but if the pain is intolerable why make them suffer? The patient should make the decision themselves w/out any interference or influence from others. Also, the patient's family and/or doctors should be sure that the patient wanting to end their life is not suffering from from depression or some other kind of phyciatric problem. It should be completely for medical reasons. In addition, I support physician assisted suicide because people w/ dibilitating illnesses are being kept alive alot longer today than in the past due to medical advances. It can often seem inhumane to keep someone alive longer and watch them slowly suffer away.
Wow after reading Brett's comment it makes me think both ways on this topic, what he said is very true and i totally agree. Life is precious and i think that some of us take advantage of it.
But then again why watch someone who is suffering and may never get better, this not only effects the person but there family and everyone around them. I think that this can cause more problems that can hurt more people. Let them die with their dignity if that is what they choose. Then the people around them can start to recover knowing that he/she is in a better place
I also agree with Brett and Derek. Sometimes people do get caught up in everything and take their life for granted.
well i happen to disagree with comparing us to animals, dogs, cats ect. Because they are ANIMALS and we are humans.whether by assisted suicide or not everyone dies. there is a reason to which a person lives and also a reason to how long a person lives. to take it into your own hands is selfish. in this 21st century, do we not have pain killers?
People losing their dignity? i dont believe because someone goes against all odds in order that life may prvail loses any dignity. Would not it be the easy thing to give up and lose hope; that is a loss of dignity.
I agree with bmallette in regard to animals and humans being incomparable. A human's life is far more complex and meaningful than an animal's life. I'm not saying an animal's life in not valuable, but not in comparison to a human. Also, by taking a human's life it can effect lots of people while an animals will most likely just effect the owners.
I agree with what others are saying about how the patient would have to be in the right "mental state" to have assisted suicide. This situation could quickly be out of control if people were able to get assisted suicide without proper medical reasons. If people began ending their lives because of emotional or phyciatric problems it would seem to become some sort of walk in suicide booth (I know its pretty far fetched, just trying to make a point). If assisterd suicide is ever fully allowed there should be several tests on the person's mental state before being able to die.
I believe that the only way a person should be allowed to get a physician assisted suicide is if they are suffering from a medical problem and it has been proven by a doctor that they can't be cured and they only have a short time to live. other than that I don't think anyone should be allowed to get one becuase, like everyone has been saying poeple would be trying to get them for emotional reasons and things like that which I don't think should be allowed.
I believe that physician assisted suicide should be legal in the US. Patients suffering from terminal illnesses can shorten the duration of suffering they have to endure, which for many familys can be a god send. People with cancer, for example, go through so much suffering and pain during chemotherapy and their cancer is so wide spread that its nearly a lost cause. Imagine the relief of the patient knowing that their suffering is over. The fact that Doctors can help these patients is wonderful! Also, considering the fact that vital organs can be saved to help others in need is an honorable and wonderful way to help out the medical community. Those who know they're going to die can go peacefully and purposefully with a sense of dignity, knowing that they've given hope of life to someone else. Its a good idea, darn it!
I think that physician-assisted suicide is a good idea. No one who is in that much pain should suffer until they die. If what they have is going to kill them no matter what why should they suffer. The suffering could go on for a long amount of time. The person in that particular position should make their own decision as to whether they want to deal through the pain and live as long as possible or if they want to except their death and not deal with the pain. In any case it should be their personal choice and i believe that it should be an option to everyone.
I agree with what many people have said dealing with the person being in the right mental state. If someone is mentally challenged they might not actually understand what is going on and choose to end their life just to end the pain. In that case I think the family members should step in and say what the best option would be. A person challenged might not fully comprehend the situation and it's not fair for them to make that large of a decision.
I also agree with what Mrs. Burr said when responding to Bretts comment, i think. Our life is the only thing we have and it's very precious and dear to us, but having to deal with someone you love suffer through a possibly long and painful death is just not fair. No one wants to see the people they love go through that and i think it's better to just say goodbye sometimes. I wouldn't want to see my loved ones suffering and always in pain. It's not fair and I believe the assisted suicide is a better option.
Of course they do! although I strongly believe life should be treasured above all, it is a matter of whether or not one wishes to live it. If we have the right to the pursuit of happiness, why not the right to end suffering? Take a minute to ask yourself whether being a part of the earth and letting nature take its course is worth incredible pain and suffering. I think the choice is clear.
Although it is controversial, I would like to address the religious side of the debate. Most religions believe in a caring and benevolent God who loves each and every child individually. I believe that this is proof enough that the right to die is religiously backed. Religion itself shows that God wants children to be happy, and if this means a premature end to a life to avoid incredible pain and suffering, then He is all for it. This is purely my opinion, however.
In response to Mrs. Burrs comment, I want to say that I believe strongly that humans overlook their primal roots. We are animals. We are animals with a highly superior brain capability, but animals nonetheless. If we can put an animal out of misery and come away feeling like we are doing the right thing, why can't we feel OK with relieving a person of enduring tremendous hurting?
If the person is terminally ill and lives with pain day and day out then yes they should have the right to say that they don't want to live through it any more. Why should they have to live with pain for the rest of their remaining life. I think it would me more cruel to force them to live then to give them the option to die peacefully.
To Mrs.Burr, I completely agree, plus I would like to know why people think it is ok to put an animal to sleep but the instent it is a human it is a crime, humans are mamals, thus we are animals so what is the difference?
Suicide is the choice for a person to end their life. Many people debate whether suicide is okay, or whatever. Most people use the reasons that suidice is selfish. If a patient that cannot be cured, wishes to end his life, he should have to right to choose to. When a person reaches the point, where he is able acknowledge the fact that he is going to die beyond his control, why not let him control when he dies. Maybe he doesn't want to cost his family more money, that is spent trying to keep him alive. what if the pain in too unbearable that he would just rather pass now. Who are we, to tell someone when to die and how long they must suffer. If we say that why not go as far as to say when to eat or sleep. If a person can come to the conclusion that they don't have much time, and wish it were over now, they should be able to end it now.
To bmallete.
to take it in our own hands is SELFISH?!, it is ouurr lives isn't it.. shouldn't we have to choice on to how or when we die? how can you say someone who is so in pain, physical or mental, is selfish in wanting to end their pain. and for the pain killers comment. why not give the pain killers and hospital place to someone who wants to be there. and will be greatful for it. or that could possibly live after. it could be considered selfish i guess if you say they take their own lives and cause everyone else pain for leaving them or whatever. but is it not selfish of us then to make them stay and endure their pain so that we can be with them for a few extra days? doesn't seem fair to me.
I am strongly for physician-assisted suicide. I feel that if a person is suffering it is their right not to be unrightfully tortured. Without this law, there are many great chances for patients to commit suicide in an unlawful way.
Even if this law was abused, it has still prevented a very gruesome personal suicide, but measures such as a psychiatric evaluation can be mandatory before the procedure.
If my personal life no longer had any quality, and all I lived for was to suffer, I would be glad if I had this option.
There are also the notable medial advantages in the medical community.
This law could be similar to 'pulling the plug' on someone that is on life support, there may be a chance, but it is so slim.
bmallette...
I can definitally agree with you on the fact that it is very difficult to outweigh or equally weigh a humans life with an animals. I think the point some were trying to make by that statement however is that we don't make animals who are in great pain suffer, we euthanasia them, and while a humans life may be more valuable, we don't have the right to make ourselves suffer the pain of a horrible illness.
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